Frame & Reference is a conversation between Cinematographers hosted by DP and PVC Contributing writer Kenny McMillan. Each episode dives into the respective DP’s current and past work, as well as what influences and inspires them. These discussions are an entertaining and informative look in to the world making films through the lens of the people who shoot them. You can listen to Frame & Reference where all the best podcasts are listened to like Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Google Podcasts. Each episode can also be found in video form on YouTube. Follow Frame & Reference on Twitter and Instagram for more content, and check your favorite app every Thursday for new episodes.

Today, Kenny is talking to Tommy Jackson, the creator of “Last of Us: Ellie’s Revenge.” Adapted from the extremely popular “Last of Us” video game franchise, “Last of Us: Ellie’s Revenge” has racked up more than a million views on YouTube. He then followed it up with “Last of Us: They Will Come“. In this episode, Kenny and Tommy talk about the process of creating a fan short, the struggles of creating in the traditional Hollywood system and about the gear they use to create. Enjoy the episode!