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The one feature from VEGAS Pro I want in my other NLEs

There might be more than one feature but THIS is the one I want most of all and have been wanting for a long time

I’ve been able to sit down and play around with MAGIX VEGAS Pro a bit over the last few months and there’s one stand-out feature that I have dreamed about in my usual NLEs for a number of years now. It’s skimming/hover-scrubbing in the Source/preview monitor. I don’t know exactly what VEGAS calls this action but I noticed it within minutes of playing around with VEGAS Pro and it felt like that dream come true. As far as NLE dreams go.

It might seem like a simple thing but just dragging over a clip loaded in the “source” monitor to scrub around is an incredibly useful thing.

I’m not switching to VEGAS Pro for any real work but I did check it out as part of my NLE Independence – Editing Beyond Adobe, Apple and Avid class at NAB 2017. This interview with Bobby Grubic was part of that. And you maybe have noticed Bobby in the first of a multi-part piece of VEGAS here on PVC. This is a result of the acquisition of VEGAS Pro, by MAGIX, from Sony. I think VEGAS Pro has gotten more marketing in this last year than in its whole previous life with Sony. It’s great that MAGIX is making a marketing push with VEGAS Pro as it’s a very capable tool with an amazingly full feature-set.

There’s one simple little feature that caught my attention in the first few minutes of playing with VEGAS. Drag a clip into the VEGAS Pro Trimmer or what we might call the Source monitor (that one on the left) and just dragging your mouse over it will scrub through the clip. How brilliant! I first imagined this many years ago as a preference called Live Scrubbing.

You have to make sure you have the VEGAS Pro Trimmer window open as I don’t think it’s used that much in VEGAS Pro. A lot of the “trimming” of clips seems to be done in the VEGAS timeline. And double-clicking on a clip in VEGAS Pro edits it into the timeline instead of loading it into the Trimmer.

It’s such a simple thing and a great way to get an overview of the clip on the source side without the constant carpal-tunnel inducing click-and-drag that usually happens in the source side. A perfect implementation of this would be just scrubbing over with the ability to mark an IN to OUT via the keyboard. If you need more precision then the old JKL playback method could work too.

If you think about it, innovations on the source/preview side of the NLE have been few and far between. Final Cut Pro X added the Event Viewer a few versions into its life and while it was a welcome addition I’ve always thought it was a missed opportunity to do something different. FCPX really kind of invented the skimming thing so I was surprised they didn’t implement it in the Event Viewer.

Adobe Premiere Pro can Hover Scrub thumbnail clips in the browser but can’t hover scrub the clip in its own left side preview window.

The Resolve 14 source-side audio waveform view is really cool and one of my favorite little things in Resolve. You can view the entire clip waveform or use a zoomed view for a much more granular view of the clip waveform.

The only real source side monitor innovation I can think of recently would be DaVinci Resolve’s waveform preview that can be turned on in the source monitor. This is an incredibly helpful little addition that will work wonders when doing things like trudging though a question and answer talking head or searching for that slate clap. It’s one of those why hasn’t anyone done that before moments.

So … feature request for all you other NLEs out there: please implement this.

I’ll add the MAGIX Vegas skimming/hover-scrub/live-scrubbing to that list of why hasn’t anyone done that before NLE things. I guess I could go and file feature requests with all the rest of the NLEs but I don’t know if that would do any good. Maybe some NLE product manager will read this and fast-track it into Premiere Pro, Media Composer or Resolve. Or maybe Apple can add it to the FCPX Event Viewer since they missed it in the initial design.


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Scott Simmons was born in rural West Tennessee and didn't really realize that movies and tv had to be made by actual people until he went to college. After getting degrees in both Television Production…

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This has been an Autodesk feature since 2000 or so…

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Stuart Blake

And anyone that thinks this is any different let alone BETTER than what FCP X already has, clearly has no clue what they’re going on about…

Scott Simmons
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And did anyone says it’s better than what FCPX has to offer? I sure didn’t in the article.

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Stuart Blake

Oh puh-leez. As if writing “one stand-out feature that I have dreamed about in my usual NLEs” and “I was surprised [Apple] didn’t implement it” didn’t suggest it. As in “it’s missing!”. As if what you can do in FCP is effectively the exact same thing, just without the completely superfluous dedicated “source” monitor nonsense… thank god!! And no ins and outs?? Oh yeah. That’s brilliant. Brilliant as in a pointless, useless toy. Oh wait. It IS different. In that it’s JUST THERE in FCP and you don’t have to do any funky mouse dance to use it. Imagine that.… Read more »

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Stuart Blake

*”… in FCP ISN’T effectively…”

Gotta love the comment sections that still don’t have an edit feature in 2017. 🙄

Scott Simmons
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Well cool man … I’m glad you have it ALL figured out. Happy editing!

Stuart Blake
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Stuart Blake

Yeah. No answer is also an answer. It in fact speaks volumes.

Scott Simmons
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I could reply in detail but there’s no point. I said what I wanted to say in the article about this little feature. It’s not a pro-one NLE or anti-one NLE piece as you’re trying to make it. So arguing with you about FCPX (which I love and use, Event Monitor and all!!) isn’t a good use of anyone’s time. But thanks for the reading and commenting. Happy editing with whatever tool you may choose to use.

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Stuart Blake

Sure. Just go with the cheap and tired “you’re just a FANBOY so…!” tactic. Never mind that you, with that sentiment, are the one that makes it into a VS. thing, seeing I never even once said anything disparaging about Vegas itself, nor was I the one making the comparison to begin with (therefore, BY DEFINITION, making it into a X vs Y). Oh the irony. The fact that you don’t even get that… (it’s called freudian projection btw) I was merely pointing to obvious discrepancies of your giddy love and comparison of this unoriginal, half-version of what FCP (which… Read more »

Scott Simmons
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Oh man no summer’s not slow for me but thanks for asking. Quite busy actually. I just came across this interesting little feature and Vegas and thought I’d make a quick post about it. I’m glad that it’s brought you such joy!

Stuart Blake
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Stuart Blake

And the disingenuous deflection continues… 👍🏼

“I could reply in detail…”

No, clearly you can’t.

Scott Simmons
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I’m not sure what you want me to say that I didn’t say in the article. I like this little Vegas feature, I wish it was in PPro and Avid and I wish the FCPX Event Viewer would do it to. Not sure what there is to say other than that.

Stuart Blake
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Stuart Blake

Nothing. Since you clearly have still not grasped (or are just plain being willfully obtuse, which is my guess) that that exact functionality exists already and has existed for over six years. Only in an actually useful version. Be it in EITHER viewer. Even in the moronically useless “My brain is too small and weak to change even most basic, pointless habits!”-Event Viewer, yes. Never mind that you were the person that suggested he could “reply in detail”. So maybe ask yourself what that was supposed to mean. I guess you don’t even know yourself anymore. Oh well. Just hollow… Read more »

Scott Simmons
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But that’s where you’re incorrect, it’s not the “exact functionality” as what Vegas is doing. Which was the point of the article. But you’ve resorted to name calling so no real point in continuing the conversation.

David Sikes
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Hey Scott—what an interesting feature! Can’t think of an example of the top where I’d like it, but I’m glad it’s out there (to be fair, I would have said the same of hover scrub not long ago, I’m sure).

I’m totally with you on the overlayed waveform view in Resolve—how has that not been done before?!

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Other NLEs have had this feature for a while, and this is only a factor because timeline scrubbing in Vegas Pro is laggy as all hell, especially if you do it by dragging the play head, compared to other NLEs.