Frame & Reference is a conversation between Cinematographers hosted by DP and PVC Contributing writer Kenny McMillan. Each episode dives into the respective DP’s current and past work, as well as what influences and inspires them. These discussions are an entertaining and informative look in to the world making films through the lens of the people who shoot them. You can listen to Frame & Reference where all the best podcasts are listened to like Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Google Podcasts. Each episode can also be found in video form on YouTube. Follow Frame & Reference on Twitter and Instagram for more content, and check your favorite app every Thursday for new episodes.

On todays episode of the Frame & Reference Podcast, Kenny talks with Ellen Kuras, ASC about the new Netflix series “Pretend It’s A City.” Ellen is an Oscar nominated and Emmy winning filmmaker with credits such as “Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind”, “The Betrayal” and “P.O.V.” She has also directed episodes of “The Umbrella Academy”, “Catch-22”, “Ozark”, and “Legion.” Make sure to check out her full IMDb and give “Pretend It’s A City” a watch on Netflix!